Vegies or Meat?

[dark2nightmare]

Personally I perfer both. I like meat and veggies. So I want you guys, that I know are here, to tell me why meat it unheathly. I may or may not reply back, cause I know Im gonna get a flood of answers.

[xxbetsaidaxx]

Leading health experts agree that going vegetarian is the single-best thing we can do for ourselves and our families. Healthy vegetarian diets support a lifetime of good health and provide protection against numerous diseases, including our country’s three biggest killers: heart disease, cancer, and strokes. The American Dietetic Association states that vegetarians have “lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; lower blood cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer” and that vegetarians are less likely than meat-eaters to be obese. Well-planned vegetarian diets provide us with all the nutrients that we need, minus all the saturated fat, cholesterol, and contaminants found in animal flesh, eggs, and dairy products.

Research has shown that vegetarians are 50 percent less likely to develop heart disease, and they have 40 percent of the cancer rate of meat-eaters. Plus, meat-eaters are nine times more likely to be obese than vegans are.

The consumption of meat, eggs, and dairy products has also been strongly linked to osteoporosis, Alzheimer's, asthma, and male impotence. Scientists have also found that vegetarians have stronger immune systems than their meat-eating friends; this means that they are less susceptible to everyday illnesses like the flu. Vegetarians and vegans live, on average, six to 10 years longer than meat-eaters.

A plant-based diet is the best diet for kids, too: Studies have shown that vegetarian kids grow taller and have higher IQs than their classmates, and they are at a reduced risk for heart disease, obesity, diabetes, and other diseases in the long run. Studies have shown that even older people who switch to a vegetarian or vegan diet can prevent and even reverse many chronic ailments.

i got that off goveg.com

and if you just like meat for its taste you can get a ton of substitutes for virtually anything now, and they taste the same

[xXxAnG.eLaxXx]

I'm a vegetarian. Meat animals are treated horrendously. I'm not going to force vegetarianism on anyone or anything like that, though .

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g2rUeeyBuU

[dark2nightmare]

hmm i thought i would get more replys than this, but yeah..hmm

I wonder though if that website is reliable or not, they could just be saying so more people would become veggitarians.

But if that is true then, that is a very interesting thing.

[xxbetsaidaxx]

it is true, there's a bunch of other sites that you can find more info just google vegan or vegetarian...

www.vegsource.com/how_to_win.htm there's like a ton of reasons there on how eating meat is bad...

i tried to find some sites that tell you why eating meat is good and i couldn't find a single one, i guess that says something by itself

and i do try to make people turn away from meat because me not eating meat is not nearly enough to save all those animals that are being slaughtered or the planet, we need way more people to go vegetarian

[xXxAnG.eLaxXx]

I've been a vegetarian for four months!

[dark2nightmare]

Congradulations Angela!!!!

I think I should go vegitarian...or something....im too fat

[xXxAnG.eLaxXx]

www.meat.org

Frank:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ExYeySQi4&feature=channel_page

[xXxAnG.eLaxXx]

I found this on another forum:

This following is a reprint of REALITIES 1989, which are facts excerpted from the Pulitzer Prize nominated "Diet for a New America" by John Robbins. Keep in mind the figures quoted are not at today's values. However, the points are still clear.
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Human population of United States: 243,000,000

Number of Human beings who could be fed by the grain and soybeanseaten by U. S. livestock: 1,300,000,000
Sacred food of Native Americans: Corn

Percentage of corn grown in United States eaten by human beings: 20

Percentage of corn grown in United States eaten by livestock: 80

Percentage of oats grown in United States eaten by livestock: 95

Percentage of protein wasted by cycling grain through livestock: 90

Percentage of carbohydrate wasted by cycling grain through livestock: 99

Percentage of dietary fibre wasted by cycling grain through livestock: 100

How frequently a child dies of starvation: Every 2 seconds

Pounds of potatoes that can be grown on 1 acre of land: 20,000

Pounds of beef that can be produced on 1 acre of land: 165

Percentage of U.S. agricultural land used to produce beef: 56

Pounds of grain and soybeans needed to produce 1 pound of feedlot beef: 16

Pounds of protein fed to chickens to produce 1 pound of protein as chicken flesh: 5 pounds

Pounds of protein fed to hogs to produce 1 pound of protein as hog flesh: 7.5 pounds

Number of children who starve to death every day: 40,000

Number of pure vegetarians who can be fed on the amount of land needed to feed 1 person consuming meat-based diet: 20

Number of people who will starve to death this year: 60,000,000

Number of people who could be adequately fed by the grain saved if Americans reduced
their intake of meat by 10%: 60,000,000



Historic cause of demise of many great civilisations: Topsoil depletion

Percentage of original U.S. topsoil lost to date: 75

Amount of U.S. cropland lost each year to soil erosion: 4,000,000 acres (size of Connecticut)

Percentage of U.S. topsoil loss directly associated with livestock raising: 85

Number of acres of U.S. forest which have been cleared to create cropland to produce a meat-centred diet: 260,000,000

How often an acre of U.S. trees disappears: Every 8 seconds

Amount of trees spared per year by each individual who switches to a pure vegetarian diet: 1 acre

A driving force behind the destruction of the tropical rainforests: American meat habit

Amount of meat imported annually by U.S. from Costa Rica, El Salvador,

Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras and Panama: Less than the average American housecat

Current rate of species extinction due to destruction of tropical rainforests and related habitats: 1000/year



User of more than half of all water used for all purposes in the United States: Livestock production

Quantity of water used in the production of the average cow sufficient to: float a destroyer

Water needed to produce 1 pound of wheat: 25 gallons

Water needed to produce 1 pound of meat: 2,500 gallons

Cost of common hamburger meat if water used by meat industry was not subsidised by U.S. taxpayers: $35/pound

Current cost for pound of protein from wheat: $1.50

Current cost for pound of protein from beefsteak: $15.40

Cost for pound of protein from beefsteak if U.S. taxpayers ceased subsidising meat industry's use of water: $89

Length of time world's petroleum reserves would last if all human beings ate meat-centred diet: 13 years

Length of time world's petroleum reserves would last if all human beings ate vegetarian diet: 260 years

Principal reason for U.S. military intervention in Persian Gulf:

Dependence on foreign oil: Barrels of oil imported daily by U.S.: 6,800,000

Percentage of energy return (as food energy per fossil energy expended) of most energy efficient farming of meat: 34.5%

Percentage of energy return (as food energy per fossil energy expended) of least energy efficient plant food: 328%

Pounds of soybeans produced by the amount of fossil fuel needed to produce 1 pound of feedlot beef: 40

Percentage of raw materials consumed in U.S. for all purposes presently consumed to produce current meat-centred diet: 33

Percentage of raw materials consumed in U.S. for all purposes needed to produce fully vegetarian diet: 2



Production of excrement by total U.S. human population: 12,000 lbs./sec

Production of excrement by U.S. Livestock: 250,000 pounds/second

Sewage systems in U.S. cities: Common

Sewage systems in U.S. feedlots: Nil

Amount of waste produced annually by U.S. livestock in confinement operations which is not recycled: 1 billion tons

Relative concentration of feedlot wastes compared to raw domestic sewage: Ten to several hundred times more highly concentrated

Where feedlot waste often ends up: In our water



Number of U.S. medical schools: 125

Number of U.S. medical schools with a required course in nutrition: 30

Training in nutrition received during 4 years of medical school by average U.S. physician: 2.5 hours

How frequently a heart attack strikes in U.S.: Every 25 seconds

How frequently a heart attack kills in U.S.: Every 45 seconds

Most common cause of death in U.S.: Heart attack

Risk of death from heart attack by average American man: 50%

Risk of death from heart attack by average American vegetarian man: 15%

Risk of death from heart attack by average American purely vegetarian man: 4%

Amount you reduce your risk of heart attack by reducing your consumption of meat, dairy products and eggs 10%: 9%

Amount you reduce your risk of heart attack by reducing your consumption of meat, dairy products and eggs 50%: 45%

Amount you reduce your risk of heart attack by reducing your consumption of meat, dairy products and eggs 100%: 90%

Rise in blood cholesterol from consuming 1 egg per day: 12%

Rise in heart attack risk from 12% rise in blood cholesterol: 24%

Meat, dairy and egg industries claim there is no reason to be concerned about your blood cholesterol as long as it is: "normal"

Your risk of dying a disease caused by clogged arteries if your blood cholesterol is "normal": over 50%

Your risk of dying of a disease caused by clogged arteries if you do not consume saturated fat and cholesterol: 5%

Leading sources of saturated fat and cholesterol in American diets: Meat, dairy products and eggs

Hollywood celebrity paid by Meat Board to tout beef as "Real food for real people": James Garner

Medical event experienced by James Garner in April, 1988: Quintuple coronary artery bypass surgery



World populations with high meat intakes who do not have correspondingly high rates of colon cancer: None

World populations with low meat intakes who do not have correspondingly low rates of colon cancer: None

Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat meat daily compared to women who eat meat less than once a week: 4 times higher

Egg Board's advertising slogan: The incredible edible egg

Photographs often accompanying the egg board's slogan:

Young women in bathing suits, emphasising the shape of their breasts

Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat eggs daily compared to women who eat eggs less than once a week: 3 times higher

Milk Producer's original ad campaign slogan: "Everyone needs milk."

What the Federal Trade Commission called the "Everyone needs milk" slogan: "False, misleading and deceptive"

Milk Producer's revised campaign slogan: "Milk has something for everybody."

Increased risk of breast cancer for women who eat butter and cheese 3 or more times a week compared to women who eat these foods

less than once a week: 3 times higher

Part of female chicken's body that produces eggs: Ovaries

Increased risk of fatal ovarian cancer for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week compared to women who eat eggs less than once a week: 3 times higher

Foods males in U.S. are conditioned to think of as "manly": Animal products

Increased risk of fatal prostate cancer for men who consume meats, cheese, eggs and milk daily compared to men who eat these foods

sparingly or not at all: 3.6 times higher



The Meat Board tells us: "Today's meats are low in fat."

The Meat Board shows us: A serving of beef they claim has "only 300 calories".

The Meat Board doesn't tell us: The serving of beef they show us is only 3 ounces (half the size of an average serving of beef) and has

been surgically defatted with a scalpel.

The dairy industry tells us: Whole milk is 3.5% fat.

The dairy industry doesn't tell us: That 3.5% figure is based on weight and most of the weight in milk is water.

The dairy industry doesn't want us to know: The amount of calories as fat in whole milk is 50%.

Oscar Mayer tells us: It is a "myth" that hot dogs are fatty.

Oscar Mayer demonstrates their point favourably comparing the fattiness of hot dogs to such low fat bastions as: Margarine, mayonnaise,

salad dressing and cream cheese.

The Dairy Council tells us: Milk is nature's most perfect food.

The Dairy Council doesn't tell us: Milk is nature's most perfect food for a baby calf, who has four stomachs, will double its weight in 47

days, and is destined to weigh 300 pounds within a year.

The Dairy Council tells children: To grow up big and strong drink lots of milk.

The Dairy Council occasionally tells children: The enzyme necessary for digestion of milk is lactase.

The Dairy Council never tells children: 20% of Caucasian children and 80% of Black children have no lactase in their intestines.

The meat, dairy and egg industries tell us: Animal products constitute 2 of the "Basic 4" food groups.

The meat, dairy and egg industries don't tell us: There were originally 12 official basic food groups, before these industries applied enormous political pressure on behalf of their products.

The meat, dairy, and egg industries tell us: We are well-fed only with animal products.

The meat, dairy, and egg industries don't tell us: The diseases which are commonly prevented, consistently improved, and sometimes cured by a low-fat vegetarian diet include:

Strokes Heart disease Osteoporosis Kidney Stones

Breast cancer Colon cancer Prostate cancer Pancreatic cancer

Ovarian cancer Cervical cancer Stomach cancer Endometrial cancer

Diabetes Hypoglycaemia Kidney disease Peptic ulcers

Constipation Haemorrhoids Hiatal hernias Diverticulosis

Obesity Gallstones Hypertension Asthma

Irritable colon syndrome Salmonellosis Trichinosis



Chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticide residues in the U.S. diet supplied by meat: 55%

Supplied by Dairy products: 23%

Supplied by vegetables: 6%

Supplied by fruits: 4%

Supplied by grains: 1%

Percentage of U.S. mother's milk containing significant levels of DDT: 99%

Percentage of U.S. vegetarian mother's milk containing significant levels of DDT: 8%

Relative pesticide contamination in breast milk of meat-eating mothers compared to pesticide contamination in breast milk of vegetarian

mothers: 35 times as high

Percentage of male college students sterile in 1950: .5

Percentage of male college students sterile in 1978: 25

Sperm count of average American male compared to 30 years ago: Down 30%

Principle reason for sterility and sperm count reduction of U.S. males:

Chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides (including dioxin, DDT, etc.)

Percentage of hydrocarbon pesticide residues in American diet attributable

to meats, dairy products, fish and eggs: 94%

The Meat Board tells us Not to be concerned about the dioxins and other pesticides in today's beef because: the quantities are so small

The Meat Board doesn't want us to know: How potent dioxin and other pesticides are

The Meat Board particularly doesn't want us to know: A mere ounce of dioxin could kill 10 million people

The USDA tells us: Our meat is inspected

The USDA doesn't tell us: Less than 1 out of every quarter million slaughtered animals is tested for toxic chemical residues

The dye used for many years by the USDA for many years to stamp meats "Choice", "Prime", or "U.S. No. 1 USDA": Violet dye No. 1

Current status of Violet Dye No. 1: Banned as proven carcinogen

Wingspan of average Leghorn chicken: 26 inches

Space average leghorn chicken given in egg factories: 6 inches

Number of 700 plus pound pigs confined to space the size of a twin bed in typical factory farm: 3

Reason today's veal is so tender: Calves never allowed to take a single step

Reason today's veal is whitish-pink: Calves force fed on anaemia producing diet

McDonald's brags: 60 Billion sold

McDonald's doesn't brag about: 50 million butchered

McDonald's clown, Ronald McDonald, tells children: Hamburgers grow in hamburger patches and love to be eaten.

McDonald's clown, Ronald McDonald, doesn't tell children:

Hamburgers are ground up cows who've had their throats slit by machetes or their brains bashed in by sledgehammers.

Original actor to play Ronald McDonald: Jeff Juliano

Diet now followed by Jeff Juliano: Vegetarian

Number of animals killed for meat per hour in U.S.: 500,000

Occupation with highest turnover rate in U.S.: Slaughterhouse worker

Occupation with highest employee rate of injury in U.S.: Slaughter-house worker

Cost to render an animal unconscious prior to slaughter with captive bolt pistol so that process is done humanely: 1 penny Reason given

by meat industry for not utilising captive bolt pistol:

Too expensive



Percentage of total antibiotics used in U.S. fed routinely to livestock: 55

Percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin in 1960: 13

Percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin in 1988: 91

Reason: Breeding of antibiotic resistant bacteria in factory farms due to routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock

Effectiveness of all "wonder-drug" antibiotics: Declining rapidly

Reason: Breeding of antibiotic resistant bacteria in factory farms due to routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock

Response by entire European Economic Community to routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock: Ban

Response by American meat and pharmaceutical industries to routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock: Full and complete support

Only man to win Ironman Triathlon more than twice: Dave Scott (6 time winner)

Food choices of Dave Scott: Vegetarian

World record holder for 24 triathlon (Swim 4.8 miles, Cycle 185 miles, Run 52.5): Sixto Linares

Food choices of Sixto Linares: Strict vegetarian

Athlete who most totally dominated Olympic sport in track and field history: Edwin Moses (undefeated in 8 years, 400 meter hurdles)

Food choices of Edwin Moses: Vegetarian

Other notable vegetarian athletes:

* Stan Price (World record-bench press)

* Robert Sweetgall (World's premier ultra-distance walker)

* Paavo Nurmi (20 World's records in distance running, 9 Olympic medals)

* Bill Pickering (World record - swimming English Channel)

* Murray Rose (World records - 400 and 1500 meter freestyles)

* Andreas Cahling (Winner - Mr. International body-building championships)

* Roy Hilligan (Winner - Mr. America body-building championships)

* Pierro Verot (World's record for downhill endurance skiing)

* Estelle Gray and Cheryl Marek (World's record for cross-country tandem cycling)

* James and Johnathon deDonato (World's record for distance butterfly stroke swimming)

* Ridgely Abele (Winner of 8 national championships in Karate, including U.S. Karate Association World Championships)

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